Extracts of Crew Lists for Michael's ships

The "Walmer Castle"

Example of original crew list from 1836.
List of the Crew for the Ship WALMER CASTLE (656 tons register) of the Port of LONDON, whereof William BOURCHIER was Master  
[on her 1836-37 voyage from London to Bombay and back to London].  
                         
TNA finding reference: BT 98/384 [crew lists etc. of London-based Ships named W-Z, covering 1835-44]. Original crew list ref.: Original crew list ref.: 64/4133             
                         
REGISTRATION LIST - FOREIGN [GOING SHIPS]. SCHEDULE C.                  
No. Christian Name(s) Surname  Age Place of Birth "In what capacity engaged" [i.e. rank] "Ship in which he last served" Date of joining this Ship Place where joined this Ship "Time of Death or leaving the Ship" Place where Died, or left the Ship "How disposed of..." Transcriber's Extra Notes
1 William  Bourchier 44 England Master "Prince Regent" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
2 James Watt 30 Kelso Scotland 1st Mate "Duke of Northumberland" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
3 John B. Paddon 22 Fareham Hants 2nd Mate "Prince Regent" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
4 Wm [William] Gwyn 20 Fakenham 3rd Mate  "Prince Regent" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
5 J. S.(?) H.  Wood 22 Wensley Yorks 4th Mate  "Prince Regent" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
6 Charles Stokes 24 London Surgeon not been at Sea before 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
7 Tho's [Thomas] Wallace 42 Dunbar Scotland Carpenter "Wave" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
8 Michael Spinks 42 Portsmouth Boatswain "Duke of Northumberland" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
9 David  Low 32 Markwich? Fife Capt'ns Steward "Duke of Roxburgh" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
10 Tho's [Thomas] Dimond 40 Tertola [sic] W. Indies Capt'ns Cook "Somersetshire" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
11 Tho's [Thomas] Poulter 26 Seven Oaks Kent Ships Cook "Thomas Grenville" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
12 Henry  Burney 23 Poplar Middx Cuddy Servant "Monarch" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
13 Henry  Hatton 21 Charming Kent Cuddy Servant "Bencoolen" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
14 Peter Monter(?) 29 Bombay Capt'ns Servant not been at Sea before 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
15 Samuel Bevington 43 Plymouth Sailmaker "Asia" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
16 Rob't [Robert] Luff 38 Bridgewater Butcher "Malcolm" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
17 Edward Moore 35 Deptford Able Seaman "Eureni" ? 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
18 Tho's [Thomas] Vineham 29 Hearth? …shire  Able Seaman "Sattelite" [sic] 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks [N/A] [N/A] "Did not join..."  
19 Wm(??) [William?] Johnson 36 Mauritius Able Seaman "Boyne" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged Page slightly torn/folded over his first name.
20 James Vurley(?) 42 Long Sutton Able Seaman "Casar" [sic] 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
21 Peter Mac Donald [sic] 45 Stranraer Able Seaman "Maria" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 22nd August 1836  Died At Sea [N/A] Died one week from arrival at Bombay.
22 J. Brown 27 Limerick Able Seaman "Caroline" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 9th Oct [1836]  [Not given - assume Bombay] Discharged  
23 John  Miney 22 Woolwich Able Seaman "Camilla" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
24 Wm [William] Smith 28 Brentford Able Seaman "Tho's [Thomas] Grenville" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
25 John Wyllie 36 Irvine Ayrshire Able Seaman "Hampshire" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
26 John Dunnels 34 Falmouth Able Seaman "Duke of Lancaster" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
27 Peter  Johnson 28 Stockholm Able Seaman "Duke of Lancaster" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
28 John Barker 21 Novia [sic] Scotia Able Seaman "Sweed"  [sic] 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
29 James Davis 24 Halifax [Nova Scotia] Able Seaman "Sweed" [sic] 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
30 Tho's [Thomas] Stogdon/Stogden 23 London Able Seaman "Wm [William] Glenanderson"  7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
31 G. Wilkinson 23 Edinburgh Able Seaman "Wm [William] Glenanderson"  7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
32 Wm [William] Bailey 22 London Ord[inary] Seaman "Sattelite" [sic] 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks [N/A] [N/A] "Did not join the Ship"  
33 Tho's [Thomas] Pattie 20 Scotland Ord[inary] Seaman "Eagle" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
34 T. F. G.  Martin 16 Southampton Apprentice "Prince Regent" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
35 Rob't [Robert] Turner 16 Poplar Middx Apprentice not been at Sea before 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
36 T.G. Simpson 15 Lee Essex Apprentice "Roxburgh Castle" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
37 J.J. Watts 16 [not given] Apprentice not been at Sea before 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
38 Antonio Francisco 20 Lisbon Ord[inary] Seaman "Inglis" 7th May 1836 East I[ndia] Docks 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged Think an error has crept in to the original crew list here - the name/birthplace of a Portuguese sailor has been transposed with details pertaining to James Tilly - the latter would more likely have given his previous ship as "Inglis", and age as 20, whereas Francisco would likely have joined at Madeira with the three other men with Portuguese-sounding names (none of whom stated their age or former ship). It could be that someone else has been missed off the list completely - impossible to know! 
39 James Tilly [not given] England Ord[inary] Seaman [not given] 14th May 1836 Portsmouth 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
40 Paulo Freire/Foreija(?) [not given] [not given - assume Portugal] Ord[inary] Seaman [not given] 5th June 1836 Madeira 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
41 Iva Pedro [not given] [not given - assume Portugal] Able Seaman [not given] 5th June 1836 Madeira 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
42 Antonio de Jezus [not given] [not given - assume Portugal] Ord[inary] Seaman [not given] 5th June 1836 Madeira 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
43 Ja's [James] Higgins [not given] [not given] Able Seaman [not given] 24th Oct 1836 Bombay 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
44 Wm [William] Brown [not given] [not given] Able Seaman [not given] 2nd Nov 1836 Bombay 30th March 1837 [Not given - assume London] Discharged  
[END - Wm Brown is the final man entered on the crew list of the Walmer Castle on her 1836-37 voyage.]              
                         
[Signed at bottom] Richard Green - ship's owner. [Not however signed by the master, which he should have done.]
                         
  Analysis/notes:  Two of the men listed as crewmen never actually "joined" the ship in London. Only one death occurred at sea (that of Peter MacDonald, aged 45 - oldest man in the ship!), another man was discharged at Bombay. Three (or four - see note beside A. Francisco) seamen with Portuguese-sounding names entered ship at Madeira (outward-bound), two more joined at Bombay. This left a crew of forty men to work their passage back from Bombay to London.
    According to 'arrival & departure' notices extracted by FIBIS from the "Bombay Calendar" - Walmer Castle arrived at Bombay on 29th August 1836 (having stopped only once since leaving Portsmouth, at Madeira, from whence she sailed on 5th June). She spent around two-and-a-half months in Bombay, trading her British cargo in exchange for Indian items (likely cotton or spice), and presumably undergoing a thorough examination as to her seaworthiness etc. and overhauling any damaged masts, spars, or hull timbers, and generally ensuring she was ready for sea. The ship presumably refitted, sailed from Bombay on 14th November 1836, calling briefly at The Cape (of Good Hope) in late January 1837, and arriving in London about two months later, where the entire crew are discharged (and paid). 

The "Waverley"

Original crew list.
List of the Crew for the [Convict] Ship WAVERLEY of the Port of LONDON, whereof James MORGAN was Master.  
[on her 1841-42 voyage from London, via Dublin & Bahia (now Salvador), to Hobart Town, Van Diemen's Land (now Tasmania), and back to London].   
                         
TNA finding reference: BT 98/384 [crew lists etc. of London-based ships named W-Z, covering 1835-44]. Original crew list ref.: 64/7042 [or 64/1042]          
                         
No. Christian Name(s) Surname  Age Place of Birth "Quality" [Rank] Ship in which he last served Date of joining the Ship Place where [joined the Ship] Time of Death or leaving  the Ship Place where [Died or left the Ship] "How disposed of" Transcriber's notes
1 James Morgan 34 Ireland Master "Waverley" March 15 [1841] London June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
2 Joseph Maughan 21 London Second Mate "Thomas" March 15 [1841] London June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
3 Alexander Fraser 23 Scotland Carpenter "African" March 15 [1841] London Sept 28th 1841 Hobart Town Deserted  
4 William Lister 31 Hampshire Stewart [sic] "Highlander" March 15 [1841] London Sept 28th 1841 Hobart Town Deserted  
5 Alexander  Williams 32 Kent Cook "Wanderer" March 15 [1841] London June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
6 Charles Maguire 26 Kent Clark [sic] Landsman [not a ship!] March 20 [1841] London Sept 28th 1841 Hobart Town Discharged  
7 Michael Spinks 48 Hampshire Boatswain "English" [actually "Inglis"] March 20 [1841] London Sept 28th 1841 Hobart Town Deserted  
8 John Sargent 25 Clapton [Able] Seaman "Sheffield" March 21 [1841] London Sept 28th 1841 Hobart Town Deserted  
9 James Macdonald 29 Glasgow [Able] Seaman "Sheffield" March 21 [1841] London Sept 28th 1841 Hobart Town Deserted  
10 Robert Robertson 30 Scotland [Able] Seaman "Sheffield" March 21 [1841] London Sept 28th 1841 Hobart Town Deserted  
11 John Adams 28 Burcham [sic] [Able] Seaman "Hibernia" March 21 [1841] London Sept 28th 1841 Hobart Town Deserted  
12 Alexander Lindsay 31 Leith [Able] Seaman "Quinterleach" ?? March 21 [1841] London June 23rd 1841 Bahia Discharged  
13 George Wyatt 20 Portsmouth [Able] Seaman "Spruce" ? March 21 [1841] London Sept 28th 1841 Hobart Town Deserted  
14 Alexander Martin 18 Waymouth [sic] Ord[inary] Seaman "Eclipse" March 8(?) [1841] London Sept 28th 1841 Hobart Town Deserted  
15 William Lidstone/Sidstone 20 Westminister [sic] Ord[inary] Seaman "Suffix"? ["Sussex" ?] March 21 [1841] London June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
16 Henry Stockman 22 Exmouth [Able] Seaman "Oriental" March 21 [1841] London Sept 28th 1841 Hobart Town Deserted  
17 Edward Henderson 23 Leith [Able] Seaman "Crest" March 21 [1841] London June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
18 Charles Usterman 50 Sweden [Able] Seaman "Westminister" [sic] March 22 [1841] London June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
19 Patrick Coleman 22 Ireland [Able] Seaman "Essex" March 22 [1841] London Sept 28th 1841 Hobart Town Deserted  
20 Robert Back 19 Berkshire Apprentice "Marquis Huntley" March 15 [1841] London June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
21 George Davies 20 Kent Apprentice "Hercules" March 15 [1841] London June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
22 Herbert Mercer ? 17 Kent Apprentice "Waverley" March 15 [1841] London June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
23 Harry Seaborne 18 London Apprentice "Waverley" March 15 [1841] London June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
24 Edward Anderson 15 Kent Apprentice "Waverley" March 15 [1841] London June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
25 James Stafford 20 Dublin Butcher Landsman [not a ship!] April 13 [1841] Dublin Sept 30th 1841 Hobart Town Discharged  
26 Henry J. Smith 28 Norfolk Chief Mate "Agnes" April 17 [1841] Dublin June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
27 Thomas Kelly 22 Ireland [Able] Seaman "Tasator" ? April 18 [1841] Dublin Sept 28th 1841 Hobart Town Deserted  
28 Francis Duncan 19 Ireland [Able] Seaman "St John" April 18 [1841] Dublin June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
29 Alexander Turriff ? 27 Scotland Carpenter "Sicialla" Sept[ember] 30th [1841] Hobart Town June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
30 John Cassady 25 London Sail Maker "Charles Kerr" Sept[ember] 30th [1841] Hobart Town January 22nd 1842 Singapore Discharged  
31 Charles Wulff ? 26 Prussia [Able] Seaman "Dundee Merchant" Sept[ember] 30th [1841] Hobart Town June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
32 John Strongman 30 Plymouth [Able] Seaman "Dundee Merchant" Sept[ember] 30th [1841] Hobart Town June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
33 David Whaling/Wheeling 27 Cork [Able] Seaman "Hebe" Sept[ember] 30th [1841] Hobart Town June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
34 David Griffis/Griffin 31? Wales [Able] Seaman "Hebe" October 1st [1841] Hobart Town June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
35 John Morgan 26 London Stewart [sic] Landsman [not a ship!] October 4th [1841] Hobart Town June 24th 1842 London Discharged  
36 Horatio Parker 34 Yarmouth Second Mate "Charles" Jan'y 12th 1842 Singapore June 24th 1842 London Discharged If he really did join as 'Second Mate' that means two 'Second Mates' were serving at the same time.
37 William Anderson 31 Essex Stewart [sic] "Terranover" ? [sic] Jan'y 18th 1842 Singapore June 24th 1842 London Discharged If he really did join as 'Stewart' that means there were two 'Stewarts' [i.e. stewards] were serving at once. Was one of them not perhaps a replacement Boatswain?
[END - William Anderson is the last man entered on the Waverley's crew list.]                
                         
            [Signed] James Morgan, Master          
     ANALYSIS                    
    Twelve men (including Michael Spinks) are marked as having "deserted" ship on 28th Sept 1841 at Hobart. One man had been discharged earlier in the voyage at Bahia, and two others (the Clerk & Butcher) were granted discharge at Hobart, which meant only thirteen men (including three officers) remained. Seven seamen were shipped at Hobart (to replace the deserters), one of whom was later discharged at Singapore in January 1842, where two new men - one in fact another "Second Mate" joined. The remaining twenty-one crew completed the voyage and were discharged (and paid) back in London.
    Oldest man was the 50-year-old Swede - Michael was second oldest. Youngest on board was an apprentice aged 15; the youngest sailor was 18.         
    Twenty-two crewmen were English (of these, two are uncertain - but with English-sounding names & places of birth). There was one Welshman, six Scots and six Irish. Only two foreign sailors served - a Swede and a Prussian. 

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